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yoyo_rkn Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 22 Aug 11 Posts: 736 Credit: 17,612,101 RAC: 249 |
We are now testing a new app, the YAFU-64t, which requires at least 64 threads. . |
Chechevatov Send message Joined: 16 Oct 16 Posts: 7 Credit: 69,413,138 RAC: 26,424 |
Please, update the apps difference table like https://yafu.myfirewall.org/yafu/forum_thread.php?id=300&postid=1121#1121 |
ncoded.com Send message Joined: 13 Dec 18 Posts: 2 Credit: 5,178,218 RAC: 0 |
I added our 256t server in order to help you test out the new 64t/128t apps, I'll try and leave it until CPDN comes back online (probably 28th). The first 128t task just completed, it took over 11.5 hours! https://yafu.myfirewall.org/yafu/result.php?resultid=8348037 For testing purposes, would you prefer us to run the 64t or 128t, or both, tasks? |
yoyo_rkn Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 22 Aug 11 Posts: 736 Credit: 17,612,101 RAC: 249 |
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ncoded.com Send message Joined: 13 Dec 18 Posts: 2 Credit: 5,178,218 RAC: 0 |
Okay, no worries |
zombie67 [MM] Send message Joined: 29 Aug 11 Posts: 38 Credit: 13,384,348 RAC: 0 |
When I try to get a 64t task, I get" 375 yafu 12/27/2022 5:35:42 AM Message from server: YAFU-64t needs 1560.21MB more disk space. You currently have 7022.86 MB available and it needs 8583.07 MB. But this is what BOINC says at startup: 11 12/27/2022 5:41:52 AM OS: Linux Linuxmint: Linux Mint 20 [5.4.0-135-generic|libc 2.31 (Ubuntu GLIBC 2.31-0ubuntu9.9)] 12 12/27/2022 5:41:52 AM Memory: 125.72 GB physical, 2.00 GB virtual 13 12/27/2022 5:41:52 AM Disk: 413.51 GB total, 265.48 GB free And I have tried settings that say to "Leave at least 1gb free" and I tried "Use more more than 99%". Neither setting resolves the issue. |
p3d-cluster Send message Joined: 12 Apr 18 Posts: 7 Credit: 468,181,897 RAC: 279,533 |
In the boinc manager, above what you have tried, have you set a tick to "Use no more than" an set the diskspace to ~ 400 GB? It should help. |
p3d-cluster Send message Joined: 12 Apr 18 Posts: 7 Credit: 468,181,897 RAC: 279,533 |
This WU now is running for 40 hours. I'll waiting 8 hours more, to see, wheater the WU is dead or still alive. https://yafu.myfirewall.org/yafu/result.php?resultid=8350284 My buddy koschi will wirte a short script, to control HTOP. My be it's help, to make the decision, to leave it or kill it. |
Vato Send message Joined: 15 Jun 19 Posts: 3 Credit: 11,068,384 RAC: 124 |
Will the new apps show up with separate credit counters? The rumour appears to be that they do not yet, though the Participent Statistics per application show separate values. Of course, the followup question is: Will there be 2 new badges please? |
p3d-cluster Send message Joined: 12 Apr 18 Posts: 7 Credit: 468,181,897 RAC: 279,533 |
Alright, WU gone reday after 43 hours. |
yoyo_rkn Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 22 Aug 11 Posts: 736 Credit: 17,612,101 RAC: 249 |
Will the new apps show up with separate credit counters? Credits are counted already per app and now the 64t and 128t credits are also shown in the participant statistics. I'm still working on the badges. yoyo . |
Vato Send message Joined: 15 Jun 19 Posts: 3 Credit: 11,068,384 RAC: 124 |
Excellent. Thank you! |
p3d-cluster Send message Joined: 12 Apr 18 Posts: 7 Credit: 468,181,897 RAC: 279,533 |
07:04 - 234,55, 179,38, 168,22, yafu CPU time: 12,6244h 48,8575h Thats the way how does the script looks like. Maybe it's helpfull, maybe it's useless. First row is the time, second the load average all 1 minutes, 5 minutes and 15 minutes.[/quote] |
Steve Dodd Send message Joined: 12 Oct 16 Posts: 17 Credit: 10,184,092 RAC: 0 |
Voicing similar concerns here, I have a task, yafu_ali_216840_L151_C145_1672156508_23, that has taken over 56 hours to this time. It is showing 99.993% complete. Task manager shows the task only taking 7.1% CPU. Since this is such a new application, I'm wondering if what I'm seeing is "normal". Thanks, Steve |
zombie67 [MM] Send message Joined: 29 Aug 11 Posts: 38 Credit: 13,384,348 RAC: 0 |
Voicing similar concerns here, I have a task, yafu_ali_216840_L151_C145_1672156508_23, that has taken over 56 hours to this time. It is showing 99.993% complete. Task manager shows the task only taking 7.1% CPU. Since this is such a new application, I'm wondering if what I'm seeing is "normal". That looks normal to me. I ran a 128t task. Total run time on a 64 thread threadripper took 74 hours. The majority of the task was done in less than a day, then the last 10% or so took the rest of the time. In that last, long phase there were many hours where the CPU was idle, with occasional spikes. But it eventually completed successfully. This is on windows. Reno, NV Team: SETI.USA |
Steve Dodd Send message Joined: 12 Oct 16 Posts: 17 Credit: 10,184,092 RAC: 0 |
Zombie67 Thanks for the feedback. Just the pep talk (and information) i needed :) |
marmot Send message Joined: 5 Nov 15 Posts: 33 Credit: 53,531,496 RAC: 0 |
Our electric company has pushed out smart meters to all the customers and now is pushing new rate plans. I took the plan that charges 4.1 cents /KWh but I have to pause electric use from 6-8am and 6-8pm (refrigerator's are on timers) and all the computing machines (which double as winter heaters) pause 4 hours a day. One 128t completed in 11 hours, within the time where it wouldn't pause. The 64t is pausing and staying in RAM during the peak hours and it appears to be able to complete as long as it stays in RAM paused. Getting the servers to sleep and wake back up is not solved and BOINC does not support 2 pause periods per day (clunky dual installs.. just improve the BOINC app devs!). But, my new CPU's showed up and I had to shut down the machine. The 64t was in the final stage where it was just yafu.exe using all threads and slowly down-threading to 1 and then bouncing back up. After restarting the machine, this WU is starting all over again in the ECM phase... What happened to the checkpoint? Why is this WU starting all over from the beginning? I remember this being an issue 5 years ago, where a WU would start completely over if the machine rebooted. |
yoyo_rkn Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 22 Aug 11 Posts: 736 Credit: 17,612,101 RAC: 249 |
The checkpoint file which is used for resum is nfs.dat. This file is created after the ecm phase and after the first round of gnfs. Maybe the app was not yet there because of the large composites which are now handled in 64t and 128t app. Maby you can use Windows task scheduler to schedule Windows to sleep and wake automatically: https://www.groovypost.com/howto/schedule-wake-sleep-windows-automatically/ https://superuser.com/questions/1069944/use-windows-task-scheduler-to-put-windows-to-sleep-without-batch-file yoyo . |
marmot Send message Joined: 5 Nov 15 Posts: 33 Credit: 53,531,496 RAC: 0 |
The checkpoint file which is used for resum is nfs.dat. This file is created after the ecm phase and after the first round of gnfs. This 64 is into 4th day; partly because it was warmer weather and I turned down the CPU frequencies. Someone at WUProp gave me a batch file, using boinccmd, to dual schedule BOINC pause with task scheduler. The 2nd link you offered looks promising. The 1st is for Windows 10 but the questioner's machine would not wake back up and made a new question here; https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32360306/sleep-via-shortcut-causes-schedule-tasks-to-not-wake-computer In the comments is offered to Download Sysinternals PsTools.. So I'll try that if task scheduler wake fails. These machines run a severely stripped down Windows 8.1, with all but a few services still enabled, to reduce RAM and CPU usage by OS. I'll have to turn the task scheduler back on! |
marmot Send message Joined: 5 Nov 15 Posts: 33 Credit: 53,531,496 RAC: 0 |
This 64t is about to break 5000 CPU hours. I'm thinking it's time to abort. |